Thoughts upon seeing Age of Steel
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tysolnaThis is the first time the new series has felt like Doctor Who to me, as opposed to A Science Fiction Series With Time Travel. Either I'm used to it now, or it's really starting to be Doctor Who.
Love those sound effects.
Hate the Parallel World wildcard. But at least Rose has a good memory.
Loved Pete Tyler's reaction to the revelation.
Like Rose less and less. Wish they'd kept Mickey instead.
Loved the scenes that were already RP'd. What coincidences!
They're playing the Emo card too often for my liking.
And it's bloody Earth again next week! Where'd the "S" in TARDIS go? Is it "TARDIE" now, as in "E" for Earth?
Love those sound effects.
Hate the Parallel World wildcard. But at least Rose has a good memory.
Loved Pete Tyler's reaction to the revelation.
Like Rose less and less. Wish they'd kept Mickey instead.
Loved the scenes that were already RP'd. What coincidences!
They're playing the Emo card too often for my liking.
And it's bloody Earth again next week! Where'd the "S" in TARDIS go? Is it "TARDIE" now, as in "E" for Earth?
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Date: 2006-05-22 06:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-22 06:29 pm (UTC)I don't know if they're afraid of space or something, but for someone who's always talking about "seeing what's out there", he's sure is Earthbound rather a lot.
... now I need a Cyberman-icon...
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Date: 2006-05-22 06:43 pm (UTC)I found the cybermen genuinely scary, sent shivers down my spine! More of this please!
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Date: 2006-05-22 07:04 pm (UTC)Check out "Tomb of the Cybermen", "The Tenth Planet", or the audio "Spare Parts". Especially the last - talk about scary...
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Date: 2006-05-22 07:07 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-05-22 07:34 pm (UTC)Jeremy has shown me some of The Five Doctors, so I've had a glimpse of early cybermen, didn't pay much attention to them though as I was busy watching Delgado, he was fantastic!
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Date: 2006-05-22 09:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-22 09:21 pm (UTC)Me thinks I need to have a Dr Who day tomorrow...
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Date: 2006-05-22 07:42 pm (UTC)I didn't listen to the podcast/commentary yet... but my guess is that they either wanted to tell the story of the Cybermen-creation without bothering much about the established continuity from the old seasons... and/or it was so that we could meet characters we already know and going to care if they get "cyberized". But that effect fell a bit flat (which always does to me in "parallel universe"-stories, I've never been much of a fan of them. Who cares if character X is a president/dishwasher in another dimension. Does it matter?). In the end they're still different characters... and the Doctor did a hell of a job to remind us of it. If he tells Rose every five minutes that she shouldn't care, because these people are not her parents... why should we? They better should have spend more time on characters from the Ricky-gang. If they had been developed a litte better, then I surely would have cared about *them* in case.
Like Rose less and less. Wish they'd kept Mickey instead.
Hah! Same here. But then I've never been much of a Rose-fan in the first place. She may have her moments, but I always felt she was a little obnoxious and selfish... and since the second series this feeling is getting worse and worse. Any idea when exactly are they going to write her out? *lol*
I want Mickey back! *shakes fist and pouts*
And it's bloody Earth again next week! Where'd the "S" in TARDIS go? Is it "TARDIE" now, as in "E" for Earth?
Well, at least they travelled to NEW earth. *rolleyes* *lol* And although I get the "Dorset with a funny rock"-argument by Davies, it still sounds a bit lazy. You don't have to show vast alien landscapes in every single frame, the old series didn't do it either. Show some corridors or anything elseif the budget can't afford more... just TELL me it's a different planet, dammit! *hmpf*
I don't remember if it was on some board or even in my LJ... but at some point during the first series, I complained that the characters always talked about how great and amazing it was on planet X and world Y... and that is was a rather fake thing to do when all they show us is earth in all kind of variations. Meh. But at least were going to travel in two weeks to an alien world... finally!
Well, apart from that I liked the episode, too. It maybe wasn't very deep but it was great entertainment, despite all the flaws. Anyway... There were episodes before this one which felt like "proper" Who to me... like The Empty Child or The End Of The World (which could have been easily out of season 17).
And... oh... Broadbent, already? :D
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Date: 2006-05-22 09:24 pm (UTC)Have to ask - do you know Spare Parts?
Rose
From what I saw in the Confidential, it looks as if even Billie Piper herself doesn't like Rose very much at the moment.
"proper" Doctor Who
I know it's strange, because this, though a good episode, wasn't the best of the new run, and it's hard to describe the feeling, but it felt like watching a Pertwee or Tom Baker episode.
Broadbent
Nope - parents are on holiday, and of course Dad arranged matters so that it would arrive once he's back. *shrugs*
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Date: 2006-05-22 09:40 pm (UTC)Well, at least up to 50%. I never got around to listen to it fully... but as far as I can remember, it wasn't playing in a parallel universe?
Anyway, I never really liked those kind of stories. It's just way too random for me to take a certain character and make a different one out of him. Anyone can do that and I don't find it very creative. It's just aiming for easy shocks, imo.
From what I saw in the Confidential, it looks as if even Billie Piper herself doesn't like Rose very much at the moment.
Have yet to watch the Confidential. But I'm so very much interested at the moment anyway, since they've recently gotten quite boring. *~*
I know it's strange, because this, though a good episode, wasn't the best of the new run, and it's hard to describe the feeling, but it felt like watching a Pertwee or Tom Baker episode.
That's funny, cause I actually felt a little reminded of Davison or Troughton. *lol*
Nope - parents are on holiday, and of course Dad arranged matters so that it would arrive once he's back. *shrugs*
Argh. *~* I just guessed because you were able to watch the episode after such a short time. :)
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Date: 2006-05-22 09:46 pm (UTC)No, it's not in a parallel universe, but it's presumably an inspiration to this two-parter, and unlike Jubilee / Dalek, the original is much better. Scary.
And Rose just cries too much. The only thing that's believeable, emotion-wise, is Pete Tyler reacting to her.
broadbent
I sneaked into work today... Uni's got broadband. *eg*
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Date: 2006-05-22 09:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-22 10:53 pm (UTC)I cannot agree the 'emo-card' (emotion card? What a horrible term . . .) is being over played. I thought the scene with Sally Phelan, added to Cyber-Jackie, added to the Cyberman's reaction to seeing itself in the mirror, brought home the full horror of being turned into one of those . . . things. Never before have I watched the Cybermen and felt a crawling, creeping horror . . . the nervous system integrated with the suit was a particularly gruesome touch. Finally I *got* what the Cyberman are. And it has disturbed me, it really has.
Rose? Not at all keen on her this season. She's fared very badly relative to Sarah and Mickey. Mickey . . . his evolution is complete. In true departing-companion style, he stayed behind to fight the good fight. The scene where he beckoned the Cyberman on to 'come and have a go!' was priceless! Go Mickey!
I loved Mrs Moore and shouted out when she was killed. Very upsetting. Tennent was spot-on as the Doctor. He is really settling into the role - I stand by my earlier view that he could be one of the greats. Troughton/T.Baker with a dash of McGann. Good stuff! By the way, the scenes of Mrs Moore and the Doctor in the tunnels with the deactivated Cybes was VERY creepy . . . brilliant.
Loved the Zeppelins, loved Battersea power station, loved this two-parter dearly and it comfortably sits among my favourite ever Who stories. I made the mistake of venturing onto the Outpost Gallifrey forums to see the usual collection of joyless bastards, nitpickers and generally sad wankers rip it to bits. Well fuck off the lot of you. This was a triumph. Bloody brilliant stuff. and anyone who disagrees is welcome to meet me by the bikesheds for a good old ruck - but I'll win. I've been upgraded!
The future is bright
The future is Who!
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Date: 2006-05-23 07:33 am (UTC)Sorry, I should have specified - I can't stand Rose being so emotional all the time. As someone somewhere said, we've gone from the screaming, ankle-breaking blonde companion to an overly-emotional egoistical blonde companion.
The emotional scenes with the Cybermen, now those were brilliant. Chilling, but brilliant.
As for the OG wankers, here's a rebuttal by Steven Moffat, also off the OG forum:
"What are you TALKING ABOUT you mad, mewling fool??
If that episode had shown up in the 80s (or the 70s, or the 60s) we'd all have fainted of joy on the spot! Whump! All of us! Every fan in the country - gurgle, whump, living room floor. Medical experts would've been flown in from all around the world! "My God," they'd have cried, "every geek in Britain is unconscious!! Quick, let's pull their pants over their heads and draw moustaches on them!"
The Elder Statesmen of Fandom, in their vast and mighty Council Chamber (in Mum's bedroom), would
actually have EXPLODED!! Into CLOUDS OF VAPOUR!!! Every breath taken in the whole wide world wide would have contained a measurable quantity of IAN LEVINE!!
And here you are, you lot, and you don't even know you're born. Some of us had to go to school the Monday after the Giant Rat!! No, REALLY! Think about that! Added ten years to my virginity, that did, Giant Rat Monday! Oh, I haven't forgotten!
Kids today!
Sheesh!"
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Date: 2006-05-23 11:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-23 11:47 am (UTC)Wasn't the Sofa of Reasonable Comfort his invention, too?
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Date: 2006-05-23 07:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-23 05:15 am (UTC)Each to their own, I suppose, but I can't really understand why you feel this way. It's felt like Who to me right from 'Rose'.
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Date: 2006-05-23 07:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-23 08:07 am (UTC)By the way, read yer g-mail! *l*
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Date: 2006-05-23 09:58 am (UTC)I did, boss, and I had to sleep over it. A long reply's on its way as I type this!
Moon Units, indeed... :D